A fitness YouTuber known as Anabolic Stick has fired back at veteran bodybuilder and online coach Greg Doucette following a response video Doucette posted after the original expose accused him of running a supplement scam.
The controversy centers on Doucette’s Turkesterone product, a plant-based supplement derived from Ajuga Turkistanica, which he markets under names including Turk Builder Max.
Anabolic Stick’s original video alleged that Doucette’s claims about the product crossed into misleading territory, drawing comparisons between its purported effects and those of anabolic ste**ids.
Central to the dispute is a clip in which Doucette declared, “But it really does have st**oid-like effects,” while also comparing the supplement’s effects to specific PEDs.
Doucette additionally claimed the product helped him personally gain 4 lbs (1.81 kg) of muscle in a single month, stating: “To me, Turkesterone seems cheap. To be able to put on 4 lb of muscle in a month for a bit over 100 bucks. To me, that’s well worth it. I’d easily spend $10,000 to build 4 lb of muscle in a month naturally.”
Anabolic Stick argued that this claim alone implies the supplement performs on par with or better than anabolic st**oids. To support the point, he referenced a study in which participants given 600 mg of testosterone weekly over 20 weeks gained an average of approximately 17 lbs (7.7 kg) of muscle total, translating to roughly 3.7 lbs (1.68 kg) per month.
Doucette’s claimed 4 lbs (1.81 kg) in 30 days would, therefore, theoretically exceed what many users gain on a significant testosterone protocol.
Doucette denied making any such comparison in his response video: “Have I said it works better than testosterone, Tren, Masteron, Equipoise, you name it? No, not once. I’ve never stated this.”
Anabolic Stick countered that Doucette was playing semantics, arguing the implication was clear regardless of exact wording. He also took aim at Doucette’s recurring defense that his product contains authentic Ajuga Turkistanica while competitors allegedly sell inferior versions, calling it a deliberate misdirection.
The core criticism, Anabolic Stick maintained, was never about whether the pills contain the real plant compound. The question is whether Ajuga Turkistanica does anything meaningful at all, given the absence of credible human studies supporting its effectiveness.
Doucette threatened legal action during the response video, stating, “Obviously, we know this is libel. Obviously, I could sue him,” before adding he would not follow through. Anabolic Stick responded directly: “If I’ve committed libel, if I’ve actually lied about anything, then take me to court.”
