Andrew and Tristan Tate continue to rack up legal defeats despite public claims that they are untouchable, and the latest blow comes not from a courtroom but from within their own circle.
This week, reports stated that the brothers lost their case against X Corporation after seeking a pure bill of discovery to unmask users who had been critical of them online. A judge dismissed the case with prejudice, ruling that the court lacked jurisdiction over X, particularly since many of the users in question were not located in the United States. Because the dismissal was with prejudice, the Tates cannot refile the claim.
That loss came the same week US attorneys submitted 185 pages of evidence tied to the extradition proceedings against the brothers. The filing includes seven separate complainants behind 42 charges, backed by police interviews, witness testimony, Facebook messages, bank records, flight information, hotel and restaurant records, texts, photographs, and emails.
Among the disclosed material are January 2015 WhatsApp messages in which Andrew Tate discusses a woman whose father had discovered she was doing webcam work and wanted her to return home. In the exchange, Tate asks what the father would do if told she was not coming home, and when the reply suggests the father might go to police, Tate responds that they would have a legal problem and that they might need to claim she had split from him and gone to live elsewhere. He adds that if the father brings “direct heat” on him, it could create legal trouble. The filing also reportedly documents additional disturbing material involving animals.
Beyond the legal filings, scrutiny is now coming from someone who once stood firmly in Tate’s corner. Joule Sullivan, previously one of Andrew Tate’s associates has publicly distanced himself from the manosphere and from Tate himself.
Sullivan said he bought into Tate’s message before going to therapy to address his own issues with women, and that while he wants to believe in the presumption of innocence, it is difficult to reconcile the charges with the friend he once knew given the scale of the accusations.
He criticized red pill figures for lacking healthy relationships of their own while claiming to teach others, said men should protect women’s well-being, and called his past use of Tate’s terminology “cringe.”
