On Joe Rogan Experience #2560, former intelligence officer David Grusch returned to discuss what he has learned about non-human intelligence. During the conversation, he gave a detailed account of reptilian beings tied to a crash retrieval his colleagues worked firsthand.
Rogan asked Grusch to describe what his friend encountered. Grusch said the beings were “almost like 7 foot tall plus sort of gorilla looking skin.” He then clarified, “There’s multiple types. There’s ones that are more humanoid looking.”
He admitted the subject matter felt absurd even to him: “It sounds so skitso like even for me,” adding, “Ex deep state intel officer. I’m like, I cannot believe I’m talking about this on Joe Rogan.”
Asked what the reptilian craft looked like, Grusch said: “That one is tic tac looking. Of course, it’s not always a tic tac. Once again, kind of like what I said, but like that tends to be them. ”
He confirmed the vehicle had gone down hard. It was wedged into the ground, though he said he didn’t remember exactly what happened in that regard.
The conversation turned to why these retrievals happen at all. Grusch suggested some crashes stem from conflict between different non-human groups.
He said, “So some of it is NHI versus NHI.” Rogan appeared surprised, asking, “What? They war in the skies.”
Grusch also said the reptilians from this event were alive when first encountered: “They were alive post crash.” But the outcome was not peaceful. When Rogan asked what happened to them, Grusch said they were deceased.
Pressed further, he explained they posed a threat to the personnel on site, and that American personnel were hurt in the exchange before the reptilians stopped being a threat. Rogan reacted with disbelief at the scenario, and Grusch agreed it sounded far-fetched, saying, “I know what I know. I’m confident what I know.”
He added that there appear to be multiple reptilian subtypes, some more humanoid than others, though he said he has never seen one personally and was relaying secondhand accounts from trusted colleagues involved in the retrieval itself.
