Brendan Schaub delivered what might be his weirdest take yet on a recent episode of TFATK podcast. According to Schaub, Donald Trump and Elon Musk orchestrated an elaborate performance to manipulate public discourse around the Epstein documents.
The theory suggests the two billionaires staged a public disagreement, with Musk demanding Trump release the files while claiming Trump’s name appeared in them. Trump would then appear to resist before eventually releasing them, revealing himself as the hero who reported Epstein to authorities years ago.
“Elon and Trump are playing checkers while everybody else playing chess,” Schaub explained. He claimed this was all part of a calculated plan to force mainstream media outlets to report favorably about Trump’s role in the Epstein case.
The foundation of Schaub’s theory rests on what he described as an email Trump sent to authorities warning them about Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.
“This is Trump going, “Get these f**king two in prison right now,” Schaub insisted. However, no such email exists.
What he actually referenced was a 2019 FBI interview with a former Palm Beach police chief who recalled a phone conversation with Trump from 2006. There’s no recording, official report, or independent verification that this conversation occurred.
Despite an article being displayed on screen during the podcast that clearly explained the claim came from an interview, not documentation in the files, neither Schaub nor his co-host Bryan Callen caught the discrepancy.
Schaub went further, claiming that Trump’s name only appears in the files in connection with reporting Epstein. He said, “The only thing that I’ve seen in Epstein files about Trump is him trying reporting him to the police.”
In reality, Trump’s name appears thousands of times across various Epstein documents, with some lawmakers stating his name appears over a million times in unreleased materials.
This wild theory comes after Schaub had spent the previous week making surprisingly reasonable commentary about the Epstein case, leading some observers to wonder if he was experiencing a genuine change in perspective. That hope was short-lived.
Meanwhile, Joe Rogan has taken an opposing stance on his podcast, expressing frustration with how the Trump administration is handling the file releases.
Rogan pointed out the restricted access to documents and questioned why certain names remain hidden if they’re not protecting the people involved.
“This is not good for this administration. It looks terrible,” Rogan said. “It looks terrible for Trump when he was saying that none of this was real. This is all a hoax. This is not a hoax.”
Rogan questioned why congressional members can only view files one at a time for limited periods and why redactions protect individuals who aren’t the people involved.