When Greg Doucette and Dr. Mike Israetel released a video earlier this year accusing Derek of More Plates More Dates of selling mislabeled creatine gummies, it started a controversy in the fitness community.
Now, Gorilla Mind, the supplement company behind Derek’s products, has issued a formal response backed by two rounds of third-party laboratory testing that directly challenge the claims made in that video.
The original accusations stemmed from third-party tests commissioned by Doucette’s supplement brand, HTLT. Those tests, conducted on February 13, 2026, painted a troubling picture.
According to the results, each gummy in Derek’s line contained approximately 953 milligrams of creatine. With a recommended serving of four gummies, that works out to roughly 3.8 grams per serving, a meaningful shortfall against the labeled 5.8 grams. By Doucette’s math, the product was falling nearly 35% under its label claim, well outside the 20% variance nutrition industry standards consider acceptable.
“Already it’s failed to meet label claim,” Doucette said. “And if you’re buying these in a couple of months from now, the 3.8g is probably going to be 2.8, 1.8, and eventually be next to nothing.”
Additionally, Doucette played a clip of Derek warning Joe Rogan about creatine gummies during a podcast appearance, in which Derek noted that gummies are “less likely to meet label claims.” Doucette leaned into the moment, framing it as evidence that Derek understood the format’s inherent weaknesses before building a product line around it.
Doucette also questioned the reliability of Derek’s internal testing process, arguing it did not follow US Pharmacopeia standards. He positioned his own experience as a contrast, stating that he had developed creatine gummies for HTLT but pulled the project once his products failed to hold their creatine content over time.
“The only difference is I chose not to sell them. I chose not to scam you,” he said.
Gorilla Mind’s rebuttal came in the form of documentation on social media. The company disclosed that it had sent a sealed tub of creatine gummies to Eurofins, a globally recognized ISO/IEC 17025-accredited laboratory, for testing on two separate occasions: once upon initial submission, and then again 78 days later.
The approach was designed to answer a question that most creatine gummy buyers never receive a clear answer to, how much creatine is actually in the product months after it has been manufactured and shipped.
The Day 1 certificate of analysis, dated December 11, 2025, recorded a creatine monohydrate content of 5.82 grams per serving.
The Day 78 results, dated February 27, 2026, came back at 5.83 grams per serving. The 0.01 gram variance falls within standard analytical method variance and points to no meaningful degradation over that span.
Creatinine levels, the primary proxy marker for creatine breakdown, were similarly stable: 0.212 grams per serving on Day 1 compared to 0.209 grams per serving on Day 78.
In its statement, the company acknowledged that gummies present genuine stability challenges that powder does not, citing moisture and acidity as factors that can speed up creatine’s conversion into creatinine over time.
To address this, Gorilla Mind said it relied on Creapure, a widely regarded patented creatine monohydrate raw material, and incorporated a built-in creatine overage to compensate for any natural degradation that occurs before a product reaches a customer’s hands.
Eurofins was specifically selected, the company explained, because of its standardized testing protocols, its depth of experience with food matrices like gummies, and its track record producing data used in regulatory contexts.
The company was straightforward about where gummies fit in the supplement landscape. “The team at Gorilla Mind has always forthcomingly stated and maintains that powder is still the ideal format for most people when factoring in cost, durability, and overall bang for your buck,” the statement read.
“We’ve been selling Creatine Monohydrate powder for years, and then also Creatine HCI powder was added to our catalog too for those who can’t tolerate Monohydrate due to GI distress. If you’re already consistent with powder and don’t mind using it, stick with it. But for those who find gummies more convenient, enjoy them more, or will actually adhere to taking their daily creatine because of them, we created an elite tier creatine gummy for those people.”
Both sets of Eurofins certificates are published directly on Gorilla Mind’s product pages as part of the company’s standard quality assurance process.
