During a recent episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, the conversation turned to extraterrestrial life following recent comments from former President Barack Obama about aliens.
The discussion picked up momentum when Rogan’s producer, Jamie, pulled up a clip of Donald Trump responding to a question about Obama’s comments.
In the clip, Trump was asked directly: “Barack Obama said that aliens are real. Have you seen any evidence of nonhuman visitors to Earth?”
Trump’s reply focused less on confirming or denying extraterrestrial life and more on the issue of classified information. “Well, he gave classified information. He’s not supposed to be doing that, you know,” Trump stated.
When pressed further on whether aliens are real, Trump avoided taking a clear stance.
He said: “Well, I don’t know if they’re real or not. I can tell you he gave classified information. He’s not supposed to be doing that. He made a big mistake. He took it out of classified information. No, I don’t have an opinion on it. I never talk about it. A lot of people do. A lot of people believe it.”
Trump then added a remark that caught Rogan’s attention: “I may get him out of trouble by declassifying.”
Back in the studio, Rogan reacted with surprise.
He said: “I may get him out of trouble by declassifying… Jeez, I hope he does. You imagine you can get in trouble as a president for saying aliens are real?”
Guest Matt McCusker suggested Trump’s comments may have been politically motivated, joking that personal rivalries could be at play.
McCusker stated: “I think he just ha tes Obama. He’s going like, ‘Oh, he’s going to jail. I’m getting Hillary and I’m getting Obama for aliens.'”
Rogan, however, focused on what he saw as the logical implications of invoking classified information in the first place.
“He’s saying I may declassify it. I hope he does. That is a weird thing to say. ‘He’s not supposed to be saying that.’ Well, that means it’s real. He gave out classified information. That means there’s real data that aliens are real. That’s the only conclusion you could draw from that statement,” Rogan said.
Rogan pressed the point further: “I would try like try to come up with another reasonable way he would say aliens are real. You shouldn’t say that because it’s classified. That means it’s real.”
McCusker agreed, noting that if the information were entirely false, a simpler denial would have sufficed.
He stated: “If Trump was trying to keep it classified, you think he’d be like, I don’t know what he’s talking about. [Him] being like, well, yeah, they are, but I can’t say they are, and he’s in trouble now.”
When discussing why such information would remain classified, Rogan and McCusker speculated about military applications and potential government agendas.
McCusker suggested: “It’s got to be military. I would imagine it’s military stuff where they’re like, ‘We want to use it for… we want to reverse engineer and use it for our military. If this gets into another military’s hands, blah blah blah.’ But then they’re all spying on each other, so I would imagine they would know, too.”
