60 Minutes examines Oz Pearlman, the JRE mentalist guest who guessed Joe Rogan’s ATM PIN code

When mentalist Oz Pearlman appeared on Joe Rogan’s podcast and correctly guessed the host’s ATM pin code, the internet erupted with theories. Now, 60 Minutes has pulled back the curtain on the 43-year-old father of five who has mystified celebrities, billionaires, and athletes with his seemingly impossible feats of mind reading.

Unlike traditional magicians who rely on props and sleight of hand, Pearlman operates in the realm of mentalism—appearing to read thoughts and predict choices before they’re made. His viral moment with Rogan left the podcaster visibly shaken, but as 60 Minutes discovered, there’s far more to Oz’s craft than supernatural powers.

“I don’t read minds. I read people,” Pearlman explained during the interview. The Israeli-American performer insists his abilities stem from thousands of hours studying body language, psychology, and human behavior patterns. He watches for tells—shifting eyes, nervous hands, the subtle movements that reveal what someone is thinking before they say it.

At high-profile events like the Robin Hood Foundation Gala, where he correctly identified NFL quarterback Russell Wilson’s childhood crush on Shania Twain, Pearlman demonstrates his craft on some of the world’s most successful people. Counterintuitively, he says these audiences are actually easier to read. “People that are very intelligent are much easier because their mind is regimented in a certain way,” he revealed.

But Pearlman is upfront about the foundation of his act: deception. “The lie is that I can read your mind,” he admits. Yet even after explaining he has no psychic powers, Fortune 100 CEOs still call asking for help negotiating deals, believing in abilities he insists don’t exist.

The online skeptics have theories—fake thumbs for secret writing, accomplices following subjects like Rogan to steal information. Pearlman laughs these off. “If you have these theories, that means I’m in your brain,” he said. The speculation, the obsessive wondering about how he does it—that’s all part of the act.

His success comes from controlling the situation like moving a puppet, limiting seemingly infinite choices to predictable subsets, and pivoting seamlessly when tricks fail. When weatherman Al Roker said “George Clooney” instead of the intended “Taylor Swift,” Pearlman recovered instantly, making the mistake look intentional.

Now performing for NFL teams and writing a book on thinking like a mentalist, Pearlman has built an empire on one simple truth: people want to believe in magic. And even when told it’s not real, they can’t help but wonder—especially when he correctly names the third-grade teacher buried deep in your memory.